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Poster: dark.starz Date: Nov 28, 2010 8:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Is this Oprah or what? Many of the great Jazzmen used for whatever reason - Comfort, Inspiration - Sleep who cares!

Simply enjoy the gift of the music for what it was, a gift! Tell me one soul in this audience who hasn't indulged from time-to-time? Who amongst us has provided a legacy the pallet size of this Band?

The Dead are the classic American Band who evolved over four decades. The sixties being defined by the acid drenched blues groove and their first frontman, Ron McKernan, who also defined the sound of this period. Yes, their instrumental improv exploded during 68-69, but a change was a comin in 1970-1971.

1971 ushered in the era of one Keith Godchaux who is arguably the finest Grateful Dead piano player. The 70's witnessed an evolution of a band who evolved as songsmiths and song craftsmen, with an emphasis on the telling of the tale and vocal harmonies.

However, throughout the years, stage left to one Jerome John Garcia proved to be a volatile seat, so usher in the 80's and the great white bluesman, Brent Mydland. The Brent years evolved in the way the band interacted with their audience, inspired by the "new guy" who produced an amazing sound on the Hammond B-3.

Once again, stage left took it's toll on another fragile human being. Thank you Mr. Mydland for all that you gave to us in terms of sheer ecstasy and joy!

The 90's proved "uno mas for the gipper" the escalation to larger arenas and stadiums provided more space for all the newbies to jump on the bus. Once again, the 90's were defined by the sound of stage left, Vince Welnik.

Add to the mix, all of Garcia's side projects and studio sessions. The New Riders, Old & In The Way, Wally Heider Studio jam sessions, Merl Saunders, Garcia Band, Garcia Acoustic Band, David Grisman etc. etc. etc. Garcia is the consumate artist. Do we judge the great by their artistry or personal habits?

We had a barrel of fun in the 60's, a plethora of fun in the 70's, wild adventures in the 80's, and one more good run in the 90's. We should all be so lucky as to have this much fun in our lifetimes. Too young for Vietnam, old enough for Rock n Roll.

In sum, the Grateful Dead were defined by the keyboard players who inspired Jerry, Bob, Phil, Billy & Mickey. Their evolution as musicians is incomparable to any other act in the history of Rock n Roll.

Set yourself free, let the music speak directly to you!

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Nov 29, 2010 8:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

"Do we judge the great by their artistry or personal habits?"

I think the missing word for around here is AND. It was the personal habits of the GD that made them what they were and what they became. I watched it when it was happening and I sometimes think about it now when I'm abusing my ears. Your way just creates idols.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 29, 2010 9:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Like me? Oh yeah--crap, you guys (and gals) let me know all the time when I screw up.

Damn.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 28, 2010 11:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

>Tell me one soul in this audience who hasn't indulged from time-to-time?

Apparently Ann Coulter. According to herself.

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Poster: face of space Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Even the right-wingnuts know Coulter lies with almost every breath.

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Poster: Edsel Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

and Bubba Clinton, who did not inhale, according to himself.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 29, 2010 8:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

But he liked to eat pot brownies (according to Christopher Hitchens)

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 29, 2010 8:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Perhaps, but the key phrase was "one soul in this audience." I've never heard of BC having been part of "this audience," whereas Ann Coulter is a self-described Deadhead who claims never to have indulged in anything more than what you might find at the country club bar. Far be it from me to doubt Ann Coulter's, um, truthiness ...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 29, 2010 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Lord AR , Ms. Coulter better not show up at your house looking for a fight . I got a feeling you have a particular can of whoop ass to open for her .

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 29, 2010 9:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Not at all. I'd be curious to talk with her. But I'd be even more curious to see a debate between her and fellow Deadhead Al Franken, who dedicated two consecutive chapters to her in his book "Lies (and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them)": "Ann Coulter: Nutcase," and "You Know Who I Don't Like? Ann Coulter." But I wouldn't want them to debate politics; I'd like them to debate ... let's see ... best shows, or Brent vs Keith, or 1977: Most Overrated Year or Not?, etc. I'm sure you could think of better topics. Now THAT would be interesting!!!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 29, 2010 10:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

I would have to be drugged in some manner to hear that , with great inducements following the debate . Maybe they go three rounds in the ring ?

Have you heard of Nigel Farage ? He has the razor wit of the best British rhetoricians ( including rob ),

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dranqFntNgo

I like the music at the end . Fits .

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

No, no, it would be funny. The inducement would be that you'd get a copy of each of their favorite shows. Fair warning, though: Ann's would undoubtedly include Day Job.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 29, 2010 7:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

I was playing a ton of CF recently and I listened to 10-8-83. They open the second set w/DJ .

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 29, 2010 10:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

So what did you think of the show? I haven't heard it.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 30, 2010 8:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

I didn't listen to anything but the CF ( see threads below ), but did notice that rip roaring 2nd set opener . I never got to see a DJ . Sigh .

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Poster: snori Date: Nov 30, 2010 1:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Please don't ever get the idea that this odious little man speaks for the majority of the people of Britain. He is a clever speaker but his only topic is the European Union which he is paid by but hates. One of his colleagues was recently thrown out of the European Parliament for making fascist salutes at a German M.E.P. He and his tiny Party (wiped out in this year's General Election) speak for the narrow-minded, the fearful, and the prejudiced. That doesn't come close to the majority here.

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Poster: Capt. Cook Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!


"We had a barrel of fun in the 60's, a plethora of fun in the 70's, wild adventures in the 80's, and one more good run in the 90's."

I thought we decided the plethora of fun was in the 80's and that the 70's were more filled with the wild adventures. But, Hey i might be wrong-headed on this one...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 29, 2010 7:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Can one really say "we had a plethora of fun?"

Where's Rob? Is he gonna let that stand?

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Poster: craven714 Date: Nov 29, 2010 8:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Hand me that piano, please saw my legs off, and if you
dont stop giving head, then Im calling the cops...

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Nov 28, 2010 8:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

you're preaching to the choir.

but not in a good way, in a boring way.

in short, i quote cliff: "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..."

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 29, 2010 7:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Cliff only had 12 zs

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Poster: craven714 Date: Nov 29, 2010 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Reading your post makes me wanna get stoned

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Poster: advokat Date: Nov 28, 2010 10:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

W/o drugs, how can you even begin to listen to the Vince years?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Ah ha! That's MY problem...

I note that classic parental refrain: "do as I say, not as I do" (please, don't write in, hypocrite haters)...it's hard to explain, with a straight face, how different the drug scene was in 1969 than it is today. I recall how I never ever saw a gun in a deal til the mid to late 70s. I then knew it was much more than the fun and games, and juvenile (in a good way) road of experimentation and exploration it represented in those earlier years. And witnessing the deaths of a few loved ones proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that indeed drugs were not for everyone, even in those earlier yrs. And don't get me started on the prescrip drug craze sweeping the HS's of today...sure, it's still sometimes a rite of passage of sorts, a means of expanding--moving out from under parental control, blah, blah, blah, but it is often something much more negative, something altogether different from the cliche mind expanding opportunity and too often a form of self medication for serious issues, etc., etc.

Arm Chair Doc's rant over.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 29, 2010 6:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

A gun?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 29, 2010 7:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Yes--ie, when buying, would notice a gun on the table or wherever...clearly, the local dealer was not the ave kid I'd known when I was younger. Just realized "whoaaa...we're not in Kansas anymore" or something like that...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 30, 2010 4:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Oh.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 30, 2010 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Hmmm--don't worry, it was about the time I said: "uh...okie dokie...I think I'll stop or minimally, start shopping elsewhere"

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 30, 2010 7:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Whew. Yeah, I kinda remember that era, or I guess it was more like mid-80's. boyfriend of the time saying "Why don't you wait in the car, sweetie" ....

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 29, 2010 7:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Cheers .

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 28, 2010 9:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

Hello . I see you already have been welcome . ;-)

What is your fav '60's show ?

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Nov 28, 2010 8:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Enough of the drug Gossip - just Stop!

zzzzzzzzzzzz...

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